From: Christy Herren [herren@mbari.org]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:43 PM
To: Edgington, Duane
Cc: girguis@mbari.org; Steve Haddock
Subject: RE: Brain flash about AVED and OOS

Duane,

Solid science drivers, eh? I will be thinking about it, and see what 
I can come up with.

No disrespect meant to Ken, but I think he is wrong - even if he is 
only referring to MBARI OOS science, and not the larger OOS Science.

Peter, you are more involved with Neptune observatory-proponent 
people such as John Delaney and Deb Kelley at UW.  What are your 
thoughts on this matter. Can you think of uses for benthic cameras 
with automated event detection capabilities in your field? (yeah, 
this is a baited question because we have talked about it before...)

Duane, thanks for your great response,
Christy

>Hi Christy,
>
>Thanks for the email. Steve mentioned this idea in the hall as well,
>though you have included more details.
>
>I would never want to discourage the flow of idea -- we have thought of
>this, and as I told Steve, it is the idea that Marcia came up with when
>she read my first proposal to explore video event detection. So, great
>minds think alike...
>
>I put in a subproposal on video event cameras -- the idea of detecting
>an event on an observatory, and then doing something (zooming in a
>slaved second camera, for example, to get a close up). I was told to
>look for solid science drivers. I don't think this idea is compelling
>enough yet, until I find the PI who has a case that demands it. Maybe
>you all can help me feret out the right scientist to connect to. Ken
>Johnson told me him didn't think there was *any* science case for an
>observatory camera.
>
>George, is there a compelling education/outreach need I can use in the
>AVED proposal??
>
>Duane
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christy Herren [mailto:herren@mbari.org]
>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:04 PM
>To: Edgington, Duane
>Cc: Steve Haddock; Christy; mage@mbari.org; timm@mbari.org
>Subject: Brain flash about AVED and OOS
>
>
>Duane,
>
>
>Steve had a good idea for a possible justification for using AVED
>software on video cameras integrated into/onto/within (how does one say
>this?)  ocean observatories. Perhaps you and your team have already
>thought of this, but I will pass it along to you in case you have not.
>
>
>Here's my paraphrase of his brain flash...
>
>
>-AVED as a first pass video filter for OOS
>- AVED would be very useful in determining "new events", or "significant
>events" in episodically eventful environments (long periods of no
>change, punctuated randomly by 'cool stuff' - lava flows, venting, shark
>attack, heavy marine snow pulses from the euphotic zone to the benthos,
>whale falls, fish and marine mammal or marine reptile migrations, etc)
>- How? AVED could build an inventory of dominant backgrounds and compare
>current frames with these "staus quo' frames
>- If anything "salient" (as determined by AVED algorithms) occurs, then
>this could be sent to the OOS operators with flag ("Take a look now!  or
>"Check the archives in this time frame.")
>- This would remove some of the human involvement and error, in
>monitoring literally years of video data - if OOS uses as many video
>cameras as they say they are going to!
>
>Also, the education community (and the general public for that matter)
>would love to have a customized version of this feature as well - they
>were clammering for something like this at ORION conference 2004.
>Educators don't have time to wade through raw video, or electronic data,
>in order to find appropriate and interesting bits/clips to feed to their
>students. However, if they had "alerts" or "pointers" to cool events,
>then they would be more much likely to use these resources in their
>classrooms/field trips. George M. has spoken of this issue several times
>in his presentations to educators and scientists alike.
>
>Hope this helps?
>
>Still working on those paragraphs for the ABVD proposal - coming soon...
>CH
>--
>Christy Herren, PhD
>Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute
>7700 Sandholdt Rd.
>Moss Landing, CA 95039-9644
>
>
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-- 
Christy Herren, PhD
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute
7700 Sandholdt Rd.
Moss Landing, CA 95039-9644

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